
Jason CozensFounder & CEO
In this interview, Jason Cozens, founder and CEO of Glint Pay, joins Andy Schectman on Little by Little to discuss the resurgence of physical gold and silver as legal tender currency across the United States. He explains how state-level constitutional initiatives in Texas and Florida are revitalizing sound money, how fintech bridges allocated vaulted bullion with everyday debit card transactions, and why global debt pressures are driving economic resilience.
Founder Stats
- Finance
- Started 2015
- Approx. USD 350,000/mo
- 59+ team
- London, England, United Kingdom
About Jason Cozens
Jason Cozens is the founder and CEO of Glint Pay, a global financial technology platform based in London and the United States that enables clients to hold, save, and spend physical gold as everyday currency. An architect and digital technology entrepreneur who previously founded digital marketing agency Visuality and property portal Searchflow, Cozens launched Glint in 2015 to restore gold's historic role as reliable money while delivering modern debit card payment convenience.
Interview
October 08, 2026
What broke in the United Kingdom government bond market that prompted the Bank of England to halt long-term gilt sales?

The Bank of England abruptly halted sales of thirty-year government debt because the borrowing cost for the United Kingdom spiked toward six percent, reaching levels unseen since before the 2008 financial crash. With domestic inflation coming in above three percent, bond investors are demanding significantly higher yields to absorb government paper. This reflects a growing global realization that indebted governments will inevitably honor their debt obligations using depreciated currency, which places acute pressure on sovereign debt markets.
Why are international central banks actively repatriating physical gold and expanding their bullion reserves right now?

Central banks understand the fundamental vulnerability of purely digital ledgers. The Dutch central bank recently repatriated eighty-six tons of physical gold from North America to prepare for potential systemic crises. Similarly, leadership at Poland's central bank pointed out that in an era where global accounting records are entirely digital, physical bullion serves as the ultimate hedge if someone pulls the plug on the international financial architecture. The institutions that print fiat currency are aggressively buying the one monetary asset they cannot print.
The United States federal debt recently crossed the forty trillion dollar milestone. How does that fiscal reality impact the purchasing power of fiat currencies?

The headline figure of forty trillion dollars in federal debt has finally pierced the mainstream media consciousness, yet that number still ignores unfunded entitlement liabilities for Social Security, Medicare, and military pensions that push true indebtedness beyond two hundred trillion dollars. This is a mathematical reality that cannot be resolved through conventional taxation alone. Expanding balance sheets and debasing currency are the predictable outcomes, making purchasing-power preservation through gold an essential financial foundation rather than a speculative trade.
What are your thoughts on recent warnings from artificial intelligence researchers regarding systemic economic disruption and existential risks?

Whether one subscribes to catastrophic extinction warnings or views artificial intelligence purely through the lens of productivity, the near-term economic fallout will be severe. Automating cognitive tasks across legal, medical, and financial sectors will replace millions of white-collar professionals. While corporations will experience margin expansion, governments face massive tax-revenue shortfalls as displaced employees lose their earning power. That disruption adds another layer of instability to an already fragile macroeconomic landscape.
Beyond protecting against inflation, how does holding physical gold provide economic resilience during periods of severe financial distress?

Gold is not merely an investment that tracks upward when fiat currencies weaken; it represents absolute foundational resilience. Over thousands of years, physical bullion has survived hyperinflationary collapses, world wars, banking panics, and the complete collapse of empires. It possesses intrinsic monetary properties: scarcity, divisibility, uniformity, and indestructibility. When confidence in counterparty promises evaporates, gold remains unencumbered private wealth that cannot be inflated away.
How are American states utilizing Article One, Section Ten of the United States Constitution to authorize gold and silver as currency?

State legislators recognize the dangers of uncontrolled federal deficits, currency debasement, and the potential overreach of central bank digital currencies. Under Article One, Section Ten of the United States Constitution, individual states are explicitly prohibited from issuing their own paper fiat currencies, but they are constitutionally permitted to make gold and silver coins legal tender. States are exercising this constitutional authority to provide their citizens with an authorized monetary lifeboat.
Can you explain the historic cautionary tale of the Continental currency and why the American founding fathers embedded gold protections into the Constitution?

During the American Revolutionary War, the colonies issued a fiat currency called the Continental, which rapidly suffered catastrophic hyperinflation. It nearly bankrupted the revolutionary war effort because the military could not pay soldiers or secure supply chains. Having witnessed fiat currency almost extinguish the nation at its birth, the founding fathers created a constitutional clause specifically empowering states to utilize sound money, ensuring future generations would have an emergency hedge against currency collapse.
How does Glint make physical gold practical for everyday consumer transactions without requiring someone to shave bullion at a coffee shop?

Glint bridges physical allocated bullion with modern electronic payments. Through the Glint mobile application and a linked Mastercard debit card, users buy and hold allocated physical gold stored in high-security Brinks vaults. When you purchase groceries or buy a cup of coffee, the platform instantly converts the precise fractional milligram of gold into local fiat currency at the point of sale. The merchant receives standard dollars or pounds without any friction, while the customer successfully spends sound money.
Why has the sound money legislative movement garnered overwhelming bipartisan support across state legislatures?

When testifying before state legislative committees, we observed virtually unanimous support from both Republicans and Democrats. Sound money is increasingly recognized as an issue of economic justice. Under the Cantillon effect, the financial institutions and ultra-wealthy entities closest to the money spigot benefit from inflation, while working families and fixed-income individuals suffer as their wages fail to keep pace with rising costs. Both sides of the aisle recognize that protecting everyday citizens from currency debasement is essential.
Six states have already passed legal tender legislation, and fourteen more are considering it. What is the economic significance of this coalition?

The initial six states that passed legal tender statutes—Florida, Texas, Utah, Arkansas, Missouri, and Louisiana—represent an economic powerhouse. Combined, their gross domestic product would make them the third largest economy in the world, trailing only the broader United States and China. With another fourteen states introducing legislation, nearly half of the country is actively building the legal and financial rails to treat precious metals as transactional money.
How is Florida leading the nation in establishing operational regulatory frameworks for gold and silver payment transmission?

Florida has taken the lead by explicitly defining the operational rules for precious-metals payment platforms. Rather than simply passing a theoretical declaration, Florida created a specialized regulatory structure akin to a gold and silver money transmitter license. This establishes robust consumer protections, requiring state oversight to verify that participating companies are reputable, fully backed by allocated bullion, and subject to independent third-party audits.
How does Utah's legislative approach differ, and how does it advance state government adoption of precious metals?

Utah went a step further by seeking to integrate gold and silver directly into public state finances. The state legislature authorized mechanisms allowing the state government itself to pay public employees and commercial vendors in physical gold or silver if they request it. This transitions precious metals from consumer savings into active public payroll and vendor settlement, demonstrating institutional government validation of sound money.
Why did Glint launch its new allocated vaulting option in Miami, and why is localized custody essential for consumers?

Nearly every state legal tender bill specifies that qualifying bullion must be physically stored within the state rather than offshore or in traditional hubs like New York or Zurich. In response, Glint partnered with Brinks to establish an allocated vaulting facility directly in Miami, Florida. This allows account holders to purchase physical gold stored locally within the state, combining jurisdictional proximity with institutional-grade auditing by Bureau Veritas.
How can Glint account holders redeem their digital gold balance into physical bars or sovereign coins through your partnership with Miles Franklin?

Allocated ownership is meaningless if an account holder cannot take physical possession. While holding fractional balances or whole bars inside a secure vault is efficient, Glint teamed up with Miles Franklin to allow users to request physical delivery directly through the mobile application. A user can select the specific denomination they want, whether a one-ounce American Gold Eagle coin or a bar, and have their account balance deducted and delivered straight to their doorstep.
Why does a fractional basis point price variance exist between physical bullion stored in Zurich versus Miami?

Physical commodities incur real-world logistical, transport, and insurance costs. Moving gold into specific geographic vaults and fabricating it into smaller consumer retail forms, such as one-ounce coins versus large twelve-and-a-half kilogram bars, carries distinct fabrication premiums and shipping expenses. These microscopic basis point differences reflect actual physical custody logistics rather than paper market arbitrage.
How does Glint assist users with calculating and reporting capital gains taxes when spending transactional gold?

Under current federal tax rules, spending gold can trigger a capital gains calculation. To remove friction for users, Glint offers automated tools to simplify compliance. Customers can export comprehensive transaction spreadsheets or request an independent tax calculation report prepared by global accounting firm KPMG. The user can hand this report directly to their accountant, ensuring total tax transparency without exposing personal identity details.
How could state-level legal tender legislation pave the way for federal reform regarding capital gains taxes on transactional bullion?

By legally classifying gold and silver as authorized state currency, state legislatures create strong leverage for federal reform. It is fundamentally contradictory for the United States Treasury to mint legal tender bullion coins while the Internal Revenue Service taxes those same coins as collectibles. In the United Kingdom, sovereign bullion coins like the Britannia are exempt from capital gains tax. As more states recognize precious metals as currency, it opens a direct path to challenge and eliminate federal capital gains taxes on transactional bullion.
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