
Marc RowanCEO & Co-Founder
In this interview, Marc Rowan discusses the evolution of alternative investing and why private markets have become a critical part of the global economy. He shares insights on the limitations of traditional stock-and-bond portfolios, the growing role of private credit and infrastructure investments, and the future of wealth management. The conversation highlights diversification, long-term value creation, transparency, and the importance of expanding access to private market opportunities for individual investors.
Founder Stats
- Finance, Investment, Technology
- Started 1990
- $1M+/mo
- 50+ team
- USA
About Marc Rowan
Marc Rowan is the co-founder and CEO of Apollo Global Management, one of the world's largest alternative investment firms. A pioneer in private markets, he has helped drive the growth of private credit, infrastructure, and long-term investment strategies. Through his leadership, Apollo has expanded access to alternative assets while advocating for a more diversified approach to wealth management that bridges public and private markets.
Interview
September 26, 2025
You’ve said our whole idea of wealth management is broken. What do you mean by that?
How has Apollo grown since then?
Why do you say traditional stock market investing is misleading?

Public markets are shrinking. We had 8,000 listed companies, now it’s 4,000 and falling. Ten stocks make up 40% of the S&P 500. Diversification is vanishing, and stocks and bonds are fully correlated. Passive indexing dominates, but 90% of active managers fail to beat the index. That’s not real investing anymore.
So where does true diversification come from now?
What does the word 'alternatives' mean to you today?
Will individual investors really get access like institutions?

Yes. Family offices are already more than 50% private. High-net-worth clients are moving into institutional-quality private products. And retail investors will get access indirectly through asset managers. We’re heading to a world of convergence: public and private in the same portfolio, even in the same product.
Critics say private markets are too expensive, illiquid, and not transparent. How do you respond?

Over 21 of the last 22 years, private markets outperformed public markets net of fees. Yes, fees are higher, but if they don’t produce excess returns after risk, they shouldn’t exist. As for transparency, we now provide daily NAV in many funds. Illiquidity? It’s about knowing what you can bear, not every investor needs money available on Tuesday.
How should investors think about liquidity in private markets?
What role will advisors play in this shift?
How big can private credit become?
Some argue banks will slow the growth of private credit if regulation eases. Do you agree?
How much should retail investors allocate to private markets?
Family offices often have only 5% in private credit. Do you see that growing?
What about 401(k) investors, when will they really see private markets?
Why is guaranteed lifetime income so important?
How do you see AI and other big private companies changing access for regular investors?
Do you believe public markets will ever regain dominance?
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