
Fred ThielChairman and CEO, MARA Holdings
Fred Thiel leads MARA with a power-first mindset: treat land and electrons as a portfolio of assets. He explains why Bitcoin sold off in a risk-off cascade, how leverage and whale moves amplify fear, and why miners should earn optionality by pairing low-cost energy with modular infrastructure for Bitcoin and inference AI.
Founder Stats
- Cryptocurrency, AI, Technology, Finance
- Started 2010
- $1M+/mo
- 50+ team
- USA
About Fred Thiel
Fred Thiel is Chairman and CEO of MARA Holdings. In this interview, he breaks down why Bitcoin miners saw a risk-off correction, how leverage and macro liquidity shape sentiment, and why the biggest constraint in AI is power. His approach is practical: keep mining strong, build low-cost energy optionality, and move into inference AI with private cloud protections.
Interview
December 20, 2025
You said the market felt frothy. What made you say that?
What do you think really triggered the November weakness in Bitcoin?
How do older whale wallets impact market psychology?
Why does leverage make selloffs feel worse than fundamentals?

In a risk off environment, Bitcoin operates a lot like equity in portfolios today. Then you see layered strategies and highly leveraged positions unwind. People pile into short trades on perpetual markets, and when the move goes against them, forced unwinds add more selling pressure on top of everything.
How do you see liquidity and macro policy shaping next year?
How do you lead through uncertainty like shutdowns and weak data?
When miners look at AI, what is the big risk you see?

Borrowing against Bitcoin to invest in AI can be a challenging situation. If Bitcoin price is depressed, those profiles can go negative and it causes issues. Miners should stay focused on mining Bitcoin, then leverage the assets they already have and convert them into higher value options carefully.
What are the main paths miners can take to enter AI?
What is MARA’s approach to AI compared to peers?
Why is private cloud a core requirement for inference AI?
Your BTC holdings rose, but you also started selling production. How do you balance that?
Why aren’t you cutting hash rate to fund an AI pivot?

We are certainly not cutting back our hash rate. Global hash rate has not slowed down much, except recently when older equipment shut down after price drops. Many peers are converting capacity they have not brought online yet, or building green field sites, not necessarily ripping out running sites.
How do you explain mining profitability tightening even with high prices?
What is the operations lesson on energy costs and hosted models?
What does your near zero cost energy strategy look like in practice?
What is the institutional investment thesis for a miner now that ETFs exist?

Many investors value us close to the value of our Bitcoin holdings, and mining can get little attribution in market cap. But savvy investors look at our sites and power pipeline. The biggest constraint in AI is power, and the fastest way to get power is converting a mining site, so optionality matters.
What are your next major milestones, and how do you stay focused?

Closing the Exaion investment after regulatory approval and finalizing the MPLX deal are key, and we expect both in Q1. We also have international steps like Saudi and France footprints. The focus is treating land and power as a portfolio of assets and maximizing value across Bitcoin and inference AI.
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